How to Verify a Quote – #SolutionsWatch

by | Nov 13, 2024 | Solutions Watch, Videos | 40 comments

How do you tell truth from fiction when it comes to unsourced online information? This week on #SolutionsWatch, James answers a question about how to verify a quotation by showing you step-by-step how to start sourcing information online for yourself!

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SHOW NOTES

Episode 174 – Patriot mythology

No, Albert Pike Did Not Predict WWIII

How to Research Online – #SolutionsWatch

 

40 Comments

  1. Excellent James.

    As Voltaire said:
    “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you believe in Santa Claus.”
    🙂 🙂

    • I ran this through a search on Presearch and got just one result: “Corbett Report – How to Verify a quote”. 🙂

          • A rare complement here, big thanks.
            “…gonna fight or barbecue” 🙂
            Lot more good stuff there if you browse the dozens of videos.

  2. Thanks James, you are a task master and a very good teacher. I have a question; can a person use an android phone for such a work-out, the flexing of this remarkable muscle you challenge us to develop? I will try but have a low confidence I could master this fondle slab. Also , EJ are you in the spotlight now.!?!
    No ? I wouldn’t want that but I have a similar situation lately. The book ; By the Editor -en-Chief.
    Can an ad banner on the front page of a dusty old blog page, an early Corbett report page on the screen, be considered a quote, say directly attributed from the author?
    The banner said ‘Get the Book’
    Corbetts Book. In small print it said something to the affect,'” an accumulation of Corbett’s articles, ect.ect.. So, I’m still looking…
    Now, many of you know how a physical book could have importance in this realm we occupy? . A tomb of artifacts in one place. Are you becoming aware of that importance giving today’s challenge from the editor-en- chief? Good.
    It all began weeks ago. Home- remedy supply referenced an older Corbett report. On that old sheet , a newsletter ? There was a banner, an advertising banner. That banner urged the reader to get the Corbett book. I can’t remember the article or the date,subject content but believe me bro. I’ve looked over hundreds of HRS’ comments looking for that page. Can you remember seeing that page?
    Off course after you sharpen your skills, these ARE skills and practice makes perfect, so when you’re done with today’s assignment, let me know if you saw the page HRS linked to. Please and thank you.

  3. Hello James, and thank you for doing a video on this showing how to walk through the steps of attempting to verify an old “damning” quote on the internet.

    As it turns out, and this feels a bit like cheating as I attempted to verify one of those quotes about two weeks ago for my own benefit. But I humbly put forth, that I think I can satisfactorily source the Paul Warburg quote you mentioned at the end there.

    Paul Warburg apparently said that quote at the 81st Congress, 2nd Session(?, the document says “2d session” but that doesn’t seem right), and it is noted in this document with the heading:

    REVISION OF THE UNITED NATIONS CHARTER
    Hearings before a Subcommittee of the Committee on Foreign Relations
    United States Senate
    81st Congress, 2nd Session on Resolutions relative to the United Nations charter, Atlantic Union, World Federation, etc.
    Feb. 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 13, 15, 17, and 20, 1950
    Printed for the use of the Committee on Foreign Relations
    U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, WASHINGTON, 1950: 64429
    PP. 494-508

    The online link I used is “Wikisource” which I will admit I am somewhat skeptical of as, obviously, anyone can go in and change stuff around. But here is the link nonetheless: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/James_Warburg_before_the_Subcommittee_on_Revision_of_the_United_Nations_Charter#I._IS_IT_A_PLAN_OR_JUST_A_HOPE?

    /Start Quote:

    “I am James P. Warburg, of Greenwich, Conn., and am appearing as an individual.

    I am aware, Mr. Chairman, of the exigencies of your crowded schedule and of the need to be brief, so as not to transgress upon your courtesy in granting me a hearing.

    The past 15 years of my life have been devoted almost exclusively to studying the problem of world peace and, especially, the relation of the United States to these problems. These studies led me, 10 years ago, to the conclusion that the great question of our time is not whether or not one world can be achieved, but whether or not one world can be achieved by peaceful means.

    We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest.

    Today we are faced with a divided world—its two halves glowering at each other across the iron curtain. The world’s two superpowers—Russia and the United States—are entangled in the vicious circle of an arms race, which more and more preempts energies and resources sorely needed to lay the foundations of enduring peace. We are now on the road to eventual war—a war in which the conqueror will emerge well nigh indistinguishable from the vanquished.

    The United States does not want this war, and most authorities agree that Russia does not want it. Indeed, why should Russia prefer the unpredictable hazards of war to a continuation of here present profitable fishing in the troubled waters of an uneasy armistice? Yet both the United States and Russia are drifting—and, with them, the entire world—toward the abyss of atomic conflict.” /End Quote.

    • AJ,
      Well, I will certainly give you a big “Tip of the Cap” for that comment and research!
      You deserve it.

      I was late to the game, and only watched this SolutionsWatch last night.
      Like you said AJ, this SolutionsWatch was a very nice “walk through.”
      Personally, I don’t have much interest in performing the Corbett challenge, but like Corbett said – it would be a good exercise.

      Anyway, AJ, I appreciate you taking the time to do a write-up.
      Thanks.

      Referring to your comment below…
      https://technovoyagers.com/how-to-verify-a-quote/#comment-170664

      I completely understand.
      Time is a tough commodity to manage…with the rankings of priorities, personal interests, family, friends, work, eating, sleeping, taking a shower, and such.
      God help those around me when I miss a shower.

    • > “I am James P. Warburg, of Greenwich, Conn., and am appearing as an individual.

      That’s an interesting way of putting it, and some people today use similar formalities when “appearing” in court.

  4. P.S. I know you want all 4, but that’s beyond my free time this week. I offer up that quote (or that information on how to BETTER source that quote with a better document/site than Wikiquote) as free for anyone else who covets that free cap!

    I’ll probably just hit up The Corbett Report Store for some goods in the coming weeks anyhow. Thank you for the reminder to be a better Truth Seeker!

  5. Reminds me of a meme I saw with Abraham Lincoln’s image on it. It said something like “You can’t believe earth you see on the internet” ~Jimmy Hendricks 1906

    • haha I remember that meme (or a very similar one) being used by a history professor I had in college about 15 years ago or so. It’s more relevant than ever!

  6. Hat still up for grabs? I’ll take a shot:

    The first quote by Rothschild is unverifiable, in fact, it was recently removed from all forthcoming editions of a memoir by Liz Truss that was published earlier this year.[https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68853672]

    It has also been quoted in the extremely shoddy work entitled Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper on pg. 46.
    [https://highlanderjuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/William-Cooper-Behold-a-Pale-Horse.pdf]

    There is no primary source that can be attributed to this quote but some say it goes back to a testimony given to Congress by T. Cushing Daniel in 1911. I could only find a hearing from 1913 that had the quote:

    J. P. Morgan, the recognized authority among the bankers, practically admits this, as evidenced in his testimony under oath December 19, 1912:
    “Question. If a man controls the credit of a country, he would have control of all
    its affairs?
    Mr. M o r g a n . He might have that, but he would not have the money. If he had
    the credit and I had the money, his customer would be badly off.”
    [https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/title/banking-currency-429/volume-ii-7310/fulltext]

    Other’s place the earliest known publishing to The Magazine of Wall Street 1934-11-10: Vol 55 Iss 2, where on pg. 15 (on the pdf, bottom right) he uses the quote without attribution.
    [https://annas-archive.org/md5/fa05819d6995245ec8dd83c2f78ee55d]

    A quote we definitely can verify is from Jay Electronica (who infamously dated a rothschild) on the track Ghost of Soulja Slim where he states:

    “I came to bang with the scholars
    And I bet you a Rothschild I get a bang for my dollar
    The synagogue of Satan want me to hang by my collar
    But all praise due to Allah Subhanahu wa ta’ala”
    [https://genius.com/Jay-electronica-ghost-of-soulja-slim-lyrics]

  7. The second quote is a bit jumbled.
    The first part of the quote can be sourced to a letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 28 May 1816.

    “And I sincerely believe with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; & that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”
    [https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-10-02-0053]

    The latter half of the statement is possibly a miswording taken from a letter from Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 11 September 1813.

    “The question will be asked, and ought to be looked at, what is to be the resource, if loans cannot be obtained? there is but one. ‘Carthago delenda est.’ [Carthage must be destroyed] Bank-paper must be suppressed, and the circulating medium must be restored to the nation to whom it belongs.”
    [https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/03-06-02-0388]

    The third quote cannot be verified either (I’m sensing a theme). Perhaps popularized by Eustace Clarence Mullins in The Secrets Of The Federal Reserve, some say it was first published in a pamphlet “Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States: An interesting bit of history concerning ‘Old Hickory,'” by Stan Henkles.
    Business Insider had a decent article [https://www.businessinsider.com/sorry-andrew-jackson-probably-never-said-that-den-of-theives-quote-2010-1] where they note:

    The only contemporary account of the interview does not support the authen[ti]city of the quote. Jackson was speaking yo a hostile audience, explaining his opposition to the national bank. The contemporary account, which appeared in the Baltimore based Niles Register in March of 1834[https://archive.org/stream/nilesnationalreg46nileuoft/nilesnationalreg46nileuoft_djvu.txt], does say Jackson used some dramatic language, including the claim that he would not restore the deposits or charter of the national bank even under torture by the ten Spanish Inquisitions and that he would rather live in the wilds of Arabia than a country with a national bank.

    Looks like something he might have or would have said but cannot be verified.

    • Excellent work. And it makes me wonder how the apparently much more verifiable, “[I] would rather live in the wilds of Arabia than a country with a national bank” didn’t become a famous Jackson quote.

  8. Seems to me, at this point, who gives a shit who said what, the question is the comment true. I often see this distraction tactic, “Voltaire did not say, to learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize”, yet this sounds like a rather truthful statement. If Voltaire did not make it, is it any less truthful? I think this comes down to cult of personality, where “truth and reality are for the professionals to establish, not the common man”. If I said Joe Smith made that statement, suddenly is it less truthful, hardly.

    If you criticize Israel, you will quickly find yourself labeled an “anti-Semite”, and dealt with accordingly. As we saw during the generally peaceful (outside of some Zionist agent provocateurs who are always ready to discredit a movement using violence for the ready TV cameras, ala January 6th) university protests against the Israeli Genocide of the Palestinians. Unlike the mostly violent ANTIFA and BLM riots that we saw a government wide stand down, protesting Israel saw state police and PAID thugs beat lawful protesters who mistakenly believed they lived in a free country. You are to free to attack the “white male establishment anyway you want”, but if you criticize in anyway the Zionist puppet masters, you quickly find out freedom is an illusion.

    Now if I look up who made the quote I referenced, I am told, no it was not Voltaire but some “white nationalist anti-semite”, who knew? Of course this is the same googling that tells me, “the belief MSG is bad for you is rooted in racism and xenophobia”. Evidently my headaches were not from ingesting MSG, G being glutamate which acts as a nerve stimulant, over stimulating nerves in my brain, nope, it is because I have a hidden hate for the Chinese immigrants and the MSG they brought with them (that is from Web MD and the Mayo clinic).

    The greater their control becomes the more altering of truth, thus who said what becomes less relevant versus the veracity of the statement itself.

    • You make a lot of very good points. Food for thought…

    • Very good point. Perhaps the only problem lies in attributing these words of legitimate wisdom to other people. Some are good enough to stand on there own like aphorisms, like the one you mentioned. That fake Voltaire quote only loses cred when we imagine that someone of Voitaire’s “stature” had to say it… but, like you’re saying, it’s unnecessary.

  9. Okay, last one. Thank you AJ for hitting this one already (I’ll give you 1/4 of the hat).

    In this case, Wikisource is entirely accurate (surprise!) in stating the quote comes from Revision of the United Nations Charter : hearings before a subcommittee of the Committee on Foreign Relations, United States Senate, Eighty-first Congress, second session, on resolutions relative to revision of the United Nations Charter, Atlantic Union, World Federation on pg. 508
    [https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.b5149812&seq=508]

    Also, I was able to verify the Voltaire quote by looking into my minds eye and accessing the memories of one of my ancestors who had a few conversations with the sage. Trust me bro.

    • CRM114,
      I trust ya, bro! 🙂

      Great job on your work and comments!

      • Thanks, you are definitely on the ‘Mount Rushmore’ of Corbettreporteers!

    • Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

      It might also be pointed out that the Warburg quotation, although accurately sourced, has been subtly re-worded to alter the implied meaning of the statement. The actual quotation as per the source document is:

      “We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest.”

      Anyway, I’m satisfied that you did your homework on these quotations. After all this, I wonder if these and similar false quotes will continue to get bandied about here with their false attributions, or if people really do care about truth after all. One can only hope.

      I’ll be in touch with you directly to arrange delivery of the cap.

    • You’re very welcome! You did some excellent work looking into these quotes, I hope you enjoy the hat, I’ll just retain my 1/4 on paper lol

  10. Oh I just knew HomeRemedySupply was going to win this one. I came here to congratulate him/her in advance lol

    • Kelly,
      No. Not me. I did not win.

      I was commending Corbett Report Member CRM114 for the series of comments and playing with the clever “Trust me bro.” phrase.

      Corbett Report Member CRM114 is the Winner!

      • I read the comments and understand, I wasn’t expressing myself clearly.

        When I heard JC issue a challenge, the first thing I thought before I read the comments was that HomeRemedySupply, the comment section superstar, would get this. I was expressing my surprise that you didn’t.

        Congrats to CRM114! Enjoy your new merch!!

        • Oh! I see!
          By the way, as an aside, I’m a dude (from birth)…and old, ugly, longhaired blonde guy who often gets into trouble.

  11. Homie,
    Ohhh Plezzzse, you left out the most glaring wart. You are a Texican! Surely.*

    * Kelley, It’s unknown outside the southern Oklahoma border just what it means to be Texican. Especially like Oklahoma sits on top a Texico. Like one that sits atop a stubborn 3 legged cut’in mule like his hat sits on his bulbous 5 gallon head. Everything’s big in Texico. Even modesty.

    • 😉

      You got here, ‘Sooner.’

      I thought of ya the other day…
      KFOR News 4
      50-plus bird calls, one OKC boy equals a social media sensation
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y-KJEfn0ag

      When the chemtrails are out, the kid does ‘chicken little.’

  12. I actually heard the quotation Amanda mentions for the first time yesterday (https://youtu.be/modgQh23iRA&t=340) and my reaction was also “Too good to be true”. So a quick search gave me among other results the same Internet Archive PDF, along with the couple of ominous features I noticed too (“Author Unknown” + the dates don’t match). I hence thought it was a good time to check the “How to Verify a Quote” presentation James published a few weeks ago and which I hadn’t had the chance to watch yet. So, what a surprise it was. I must say the question was as enlighting to me as the answer, although for different motives.

    Now, this is a good opportunity to go over a few items, even though some are already mentioned in “Patriot Mythology” (link in show notes):

    -as AJ and HRS said above, time is often lacking for many of us who would otherwise gladly verify the authenticity of the info we come across.

    -we all have gone through a large amount of BS over the last X number of years of research and probably have believed some of it, at least for a while, or perhaps in some cases even still do to this day.

    -making fun of those who are still attached to one specific myth or another doesn’t help them and neither does it help the truth-seeking effort at large.

    -discernment is key and we hopefully keep learning to tune our personal capacity to discern, but we do have cognitive biases and being able to actually observe them at work within ourselves is priceless.

    -those biases are used against us and disinformation is probably the best counter-intelligence tool used to undermine the independent media, as even one sole fake quote can discredit a whole work of disclosure.

    -psychological tribal biases often convince us that those who denounce the same things and have the same views as we do, are “the good guys”, but unfortunately, the “conspiracy theory” environment is ridden with wannabe gurus who seek to build their group of followers to whom they’ll tell whatever the latter want to hear.

    -in the same line, we often wonder how cults can make their members believe so much crap but it’s quite simple, you just mix truths with lies and keep raising the bar, because even if you lose some members in the process, the last that remain will be those who worship you.

    -without going as far as worshiping cult-leaders, we have to end the cult of personality bias that we seem to cherish so much and that is also based on our tribal instincts.

    -to finish, I noticed that among the deeper motivations for some who expose the mainstream lies, one of them can be to have a reason that explains why they can’t succeed in life (“everything is rigged, so why bother”), while another reason can be to seek wondrous worlds (aliens, secret societies, magic, etc). These reasons may be partially true, that’s a personal question, but it’s important to observe oneself with sincerity in this process of understanding how the world works, because otherwise we’ll just fall into yet another trap.

    • “…. I noticed that among the deeper motivations for some who expose the mainstream lies, one of them can be to have a reason that explains why they can’t succeed in life (“everything is rigged, so why bother”), while another reason can be to seek wondrous worlds (aliens, secret societies, magic, etc). These reasons may be partially true, that’s a personal question, but it’s important to observe oneself with sincerity in this process of understanding how the world works, because otherwise we’ll just fall into yet another trap….”

      Yes, I think that a good chunk of people get interested in ‘truther’ stuff as entertainment or an explanation of their own uselessness.

      Luke Smith- Pessimism is *literally* for losers.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQIcUBd-5fk

      • Hi Duck

        I won’t pretend I’m always free of some of the biases I mentioned before either and as Luke Smith says in the video you linked, pessimism can easily be a way to justify a lack of action.

        I know this attitude very well because my father brought me up teaching me from a very young age that the masses are manipulated, and even though I think it’s definitely a good idea to deactivate in a child’s mind, with daily concrete examples, the mechanisms of indoctrination that turn most people into sheep, I’m afraid his convictions were also his excuse to keep drinking and just give up.

        It created in me such a negative image of the world that I had no interest whatsoever in politics for the best part of my 20’s and led a hedonistic lifestyle. It’s actually an advice I’d give to anyone who wants to make their kids aware of such matters: while it’s important to show them the reality of our society, it’s also essential to simultaneously give them hope and hope of a realistic kind.

        Moreover, as I intended to point out in my previous comment, if there is one significant positive aspect in this path of discovery, it is that it can be a process of personal growth. In that regard, it’s interesting to see that “to wake up” has become such a common expression in our culture, since this awakening has been close to a sort of mystical experience for so many.

        Then, from a wider perspective, people typically ponder why the history of humanity has often been so tragic and why there is so much evil, although they feel it could be heaven on Earth. But what we learned with the principles of evolution is that evolution itself needs obstacles in order to adapt to new circumstances and set its own progress in motion. This is exactly what I observe with consciousness: confronting the darker sides of mankind is similar to facing an obstacle that pushes human conscience to continue developing and rising. We’re just following a trajectory, or at least this is how I see it.

        • “… it’s also essential to simultaneously give them hope and hope of a realistic kind….”

          Yes, I agree 100% with you.

          In my opinion the lack of religion (which gives meaning) is the cause of the hopelessness I sense in so many online people these days… I honestly think that we will see MASS uptick in suicide very soon.

          “…. In that regard, it’s interesting to see that “to wake up” has become such a common expression in our culture, since this awakening has been close to a sort of mystical experience for so many….”

          YES…. I am starting to think that PART of the reason they allow the ‘truth’ out is some kind of attempt to create a new religious path for people. Chris Knowles of the secret sun has said that the Old state Cults are being brought back

          I ALSO think a lot of people just break when they realize that the world is not what they have been taught…. I recall that when I started to realize how much of the Holocaust story was post war propaganda (thought the nazis DID do real war crimes!!) it gave me headaches and anxiety. I now think that PART of the reason they let the truth about things out is to push some people into mental state of fear and distrust in EVERYTHING so we revert to infant mode and follow whatever leader they provide us with.

          “….evolution itself needs obstacles in order to adapt to new circumstances and set its own progress in motion….”

          HERE I would quibble, because the idea of evolution has nothing to do with ‘progress’…the idea of ‘progress’ would demand an END GOAL that evoultion cant provide- Blind cave fish have not ‘progressed’ towards a better state, they just went blind.

          The idea of Progress is a perversion of Christian Endtimes theology…history is much more cyclical, going round and round again.

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